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[granite]

I feel for you but they have done everything short of the cat. I f the do the cat you will probably be trouble free. Been there done that and all is good for the last 11 months knock knock on wood.

 

[Brewster]

This was just released- hopefully this will help- (there is a 'rapid response' for the '14s also just released):

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1809515.pdf

 

[Beautiful BC]

I bought my GC Overland Eco Diesel 2014 in January of this year. I love this vehicle but have had nothing but trouble with it. After owning it for three months the check oil light came on when I started it and it sounded and drove funny. I pulled over and had it towed to the dealer...they checked it and told me that they didn't know why the alert came on but everything looked good. I drove away and within 5 minutes I knew there was still something wrong and the alert came on again. I drove back to the dealer and didn't see my vehicle again for 6 weeks. They put in a new engine and the day I went to pick it up I had to turn around again because now it needed a new air conditioner. I didn't even see it and that was 4 weeks. I expressed my concerns to the owner but he completely ignored me. Two weeks later the engine light came on, I take it in and now it needs a new gasket. Another couple of days I take it home again. A couple of weeks later you guessed it the engine light comes on and now it needs a new catalytic converter. Yikes apparently they are building me a whole new vehicle. Unfortunately the story doesn't end there, the engine light comes on again and yes it's flashing and cannot be ignored. The alert says engine will shut down in 750km, see dealer. GREAT!!! I really don't want to go back to the friggin dealer, give me a break. Sure enough the computer needs to be updated and yes if this isn't done my vehicle will SHUT DOWN. There goes another day I'll never get back. I decide I need a vacation since I'm so stressed from dealing with this vehicle. Apparently there is no place far enough to get away from this POS. While I'm away my daughter is driving it and yup the engine light and the alert engine will shut down comes on again. You can run but you can't hide jeep owner. Interesting tidbit I learned is that this diesel engine likes to run hot so if you do lots of little running around it gets cranky and you need to take it on a road trip. Told my daughter to drive to somewhere on the freeway for an hour to relieve this little problem. She was thrilled to help out but took one for the team. I was in last week again and had the oil changed which cost me $250 and yup as I was driving away I noticed the check oil light was still on. Unbelievable, now I have to go back to have them reset this! In Canada we don't have a Lemon Law but we have something similar. How do you ever get your money back on a vehicle that has spent so much time getting fixed? This vehicle has been in for repairs over 2 months of the 11 months I have owned it.

 

[bigmaho]

Ok. Sorry for continuing the support group mentality, but I am so frustrated. Got my 2015 GC Overland Diesel in May. Def system light went on for the first time in July. Won't talk about the dealer problems, since I switched dealers and started driving to one 30 mins away. Replaced sensors. Light back. Replaced Computer. Light back. Found water in fuel. (I don't know what they did for that one.) Light back. Replaced Def system. Light back. It is now 6 months old, and has spent MORE than 1/6 of it's life in the shop. It has less than 10,000 miles. Love the car if it would WORK! I don't think they've replaced the CAT yet. I mentioned that early on, but the dealer said they have to follow the codes from the computer. I am SO frustrated. Suggestions? Anyone else has 2015 problems, or did I just get the lemon. The legal dept is supposed to be contacting me next week, but from what I've seen here, I don't have much hope.

Incredibly stupid dealer. The CAT issue is well known. replace that and your problems will be over. I'm amazed that the dealer doesn't read the Service Bulletins.

 

[Designerstakenote]

Ok. Sorry for continuing the support group mentality, but I am so frustrated. Got my 2015 GC Overland Diesel in May. Def system light went on for the first time in July. Won't talk about the dealer problems, since I switched dealers and started driving to one 30 mins away. Replaced sensors. Light back. Replaced Computer. Light back. Found water in fuel. (I don't know what they did for that one.) Light back. Replaced Def system. Light back. It is now 6 months old, and has spent MORE than 1/6 of it's life in the shop. It has less than 10,000 miles. Love the car if it would WORK! I don't think they've replaced the CAT yet. I mentioned that early on, but the dealer said they have to follow the codes from the computer. I am SO frustrated. Suggestions? Anyone else has 2015 problems, or did I just get the lemon. The legal dept is supposed to be contacting me next week, but from what I've seen here, I don't have much hope.

Found this with my 2014 Overland. DEF gauge would not change when I topped it up. Getting warnings about the engine shutting down after so may km. I agree, love the Jeep when everything is working. Annoyed that this gauge is causing me stress. I will be taking my vehicle in soon. Will let you know what is happening.
And my oil change is close to $300. That doesn't include a tire rotation. Anyone else have trouble with phone pairing, especially when you remote start then get in, start, and it tells me no phone connected so I have to go through the settings to search for it. Not all the time. Just now and then. Enough to be annoying!

 

[SAWs]

Purchased my 2015 GC High Altitude Diesel in September. Just turned 10,000 miles. One oil change ($219 at dealer w/ tire rotation). Worst tank of fuel 26.7 MPG; best 34.4 MPG. 80% highway (ave 75 mph). Most of the city driving involves towing 5,500 lbs trailer. I've owned over 20 vehicles in my life, and this is the best by far. I drive this vehicle hard; never let the engine idle for more than a few minutes. Adaptive Cruise Control should be standard on all vehicles. It already saved my life (or at least the front of my GC) once already. My only complaint is that I wish it had a third seat.

 

[John E. Cutler]

Ok. Sorry for continuing the support group mentality, but I am so frustrated. Got my 2015 GC Overland Diesel in May. Def system light went on for the first time in July. Won't talk about the dealer problems, since I switched dealers and started driving to one 30 mins away. Replaced sensors. Light back. Replaced Computer. Light back. Found water in fuel. (I don't know what they did for that one.) Light back. Replaced Def system. Light back. It is now 6 months old, and has spent MORE than 1/6 of it's life in the shop. It has less than 10,000 miles. Love the car if it would WORK! I don't think they've replaced the CAT yet. I mentioned that early on, but the dealer said they have to follow the codes from the computer. I am SO frustrated. Suggestions? Anyone else has 2015 problems, or did I just get the lemon. The legal dept is supposed to be contacting me next week, but from what I've seen here, I don't have much hope.

I picked up my 2014 Diesel the Monday before Thanksgiving, 2014. I had multiple check engine lights (6-8) as well as engine surging at 55-60 mph. Also, at the same time the engine was not using any DEF.
Dealer, River Oaks Chrysler, Houston, Texas finally determined that the problem was the catalytic converter. New converter at 23,072 miles. I now have 48,950 miles and have had no other check engine lights or other issues.
John C

 

[Designerstakenote]

I bought my GC Overland Eco Diesel 2014 in January of this year. I love this vehicle but have had nothing but trouble with it. After owning it for three months the check oil light came on when I started it and it sounded and drove funny. I pulled over and had it towed to the dealer...they checked it and told me that they didn't know why the alert came on but everything looked good. I drove away and within 5 minutes I knew there was still something wrong and the alert came on again. I drove back to the dealer and didn't see my vehicle again for 6 weeks. They put in a new engine and the day I went to pick it up I had to turn around again because now it needed a new air conditioner. I didn't even see it and that was 4 weeks. I expressed my concerns to the owner but he completely ignored me. Two weeks later the engine light came on, I take it in and now it needs a new gasket. Another couple of days I take it home again. A couple of weeks later you guessed it the engine light comes on and now it needs a new catalytic converter. Yikes apparently they are building me a whole new vehicle. Unfortunately the story doesn't end there, the engine light comes on again and yes it's flashing and cannot be ignored. The alert says engine will shut down in 750km, see dealer. GREAT!!! I really don't want to go back to the friggin dealer, give me a break. Sure enough the computer needs to be updated and yes if this isn't done my vehicle will SHUT DOWN. There goes another day I'll never get back. I decide I need a vacation since I'm so stressed from dealing with this vehicle. Apparently there is no place far enough to get away from this POS. While I'm away my daughter is driving it and yup the engine light and the alert engine will shut down comes on again. You can run but you can't hide jeep owner. Interesting tidbit I learned is that this diesel engine likes to run hot so if you do lots of little running around it gets cranky and you need to take it on a road trip. Told my daughter to drive to somewhere on the freeway for an hour to relieve this little problem. She was thrilled to help out but took one for the team. I was in last week again and had the oil changed which cost me $250 and yup as I was driving away I noticed the check oil light was still on. Unbelievable, now I have to go back to have them reset this! In Canada we don't have a Lemon Law but we have something similar. How do you ever get your money back on a vehicle that has spent so much time getting fixed? This vehicle has been in for repairs over 2 months of the 11 months I have owned it.

My oil changes are the close to $300. My DEF gauge is not working properly and I get the warnings about a shut down too....after I have topped the DEF up. WTH!!Do these designers and engineers not test their own product or just throw it together on the assembly line. Thinking of looking for another vehicle but knowing the inflated price on this won't be recouped.

 

[jetskifast]

Picked up my 2015 Limited 12/04/15. After 2000 miles and 28.5 MPG average 90% freeway, not one problem.

 

[Designerstakenote]

Picked up my 2015 Limited 12/04/15. After 2000 miles and 28.5 MPG average 90% freeway, not one problem.

Good for you! Sounds like you have a good one. What are your oil change costs?

 

[jetskifast]

Good for you! Sounds like you have a good one. What are your oil change costs?

Changed oil at 1500 miles, like to get break in crap out early on my new cars.. My cost to do oil change around $90. Purchased oil on sale from Amazon. Mopar oil filter purchased from EBay.

 

[shujump]

Picked up my '15 GC Limited Diesel just before Christmas. As the sales guy is going over all the features the sun shade on the roof detached from the track as it was closing again! Had to order entire new one and they are replacing, no biggie except no communication from service! Bigger issue, shaking over 60 mph, like shaking my insides. Rebalanced wheels but did not do it. Shaking is not in the wheels, feels like suspension or engine. Not constant but happens every time without fail no matter acceleration, deceleration or cruising. Also, under any type of acceleration there is a constant high pitch chirp, anyone else get this?

 

[bluerose]

Picked up my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4X4 in Sept. Have a bit over 5000 miles. Only problem has been annoying rattle in the engine area but that was fixed quickly by the dealer.

Also had a problem with living in So.Cal and asking the dealer about diesel gel issues and temps...they had no clue, it does not get that cold here... I have a place in the mountains so I ended up getting the info from somewhere else . I'm all set now.

 

[Brewster]

Yes- if Fiat Chrysler wants to survive they have to weed out the incompetents! They should be able to tell this by the amount of complaints and 'Star cases' opened from an individual dealer, in my opinion.
A customer shouldn't have to tell the dealer 'there is a TSB on this problem'.

 

[Matezz]

Picked up my '15 GC Limited Diesel just before Christmas. As the sales guy is going over all the features the sun shade on the roof detached from the track as it was closing again! Had to order entire new one and they are replacing, no biggie except no communication from service! Bigger issue, shaking over 60 mph, like shaking my insides. Rebalanced wheels but did not do it. Shaking is not in the wheels, feels like suspension or engine. Not constant but happens every time without fail no matter acceleration, deceleration or cruising. Also, under any type of acceleration there is a constant high pitch chirp, anyone else get this?

I have 15 Limited ED, no shaking or pitch (12KMiles). Smooth as a butter until over 100Mph. Honestly, if it shake as you have described, it may not be safe to drive. Other reason I wouldn't drive it in this condition is that these vibrations putting extra stress on other components, eating up their lifespan.
My guess is suspension related - maybe faulty shock absorber. If you would like to find out for yourself, see if someone can drive on your sides and see if any wheel dribbles @ over 60 when you experience the issue. Other than that, I'll have dealer fix it.

 

[falco1]

2015 GC Summit EcoDiesel oil leak from upper oil pan gasket at 22,000 mi. Warranty repair at dealer, no issues since. Also downloaded software for shifter issue, now goes into park anytime door is opened. 20 inch Goodyear Fortera tires almost gone at 25k. Not bad for a heavy 4x4 suv. Mileage is excellent 21 city 30plus hwy. No other issues, I really like the way it drives and looks.

 

[sumyunguy]

I bought my GC Overland Eco Diesel 2014 in January of this year. I love this vehicle but have had nothing but trouble with it. After owning it for three months the check oil light came on when I started it and it sounded and drove funny. I pulled over and had it towed to the dealer...they checked it and told me that they didn't know why the alert came on but everything looked good. I drove away and within 5 minutes I knew there was still something wrong and the alert came on again. I drove back to the dealer and didn't see my vehicle again for 6 weeks. They put in a new engine and the day I went to pick it up I had to turn around again because now it needed a new air conditioner. I didn't even see it and that was 4 weeks. I expressed my concerns to the owner but he completely ignored me. Two weeks later the engine light came on, I take it in and now it needs a new gasket. Another couple of days I take it home again. A couple of weeks later you guessed it the engine light comes on and now it needs a new catalytic converter. Yikes apparently they are building me a whole new vehicle. Unfortunately the story doesn't end there, the engine light comes on again and yes it's flashing and cannot be ignored. The alert says engine will shut down in 750km, see dealer. GREAT!!! I really don't want to go back to the friggin dealer, give me a break. Sure enough the computer needs to be updated and yes if this isn't done my vehicle will SHUT DOWN. There goes another day I'll never get back. I decide I need a vacation since I'm so stressed from dealing with this vehicle. Apparently there is no place far enough to get away from this POS. While I'm away my daughter is driving it and yup the engine light and the alert engine will shut down comes on again. You can run but you can't hide jeep owner. Interesting tidbit I learned is that this diesel engine likes to run hot so if you do lots of little running around it gets cranky and you need to take it on a road trip. Told my daughter to drive to somewhere on the freeway for an hour to relieve this little problem. She was thrilled to help out but took one for the team. I was in last week again and had the oil changed which cost me $250 and yup as I was driving away I noticed the check oil light was still on. Unbelievable, now I have to go back to have them reset this! In Canada we don't have a Lemon Law but we have something similar. How do you ever get your money back on a vehicle that has spent so much time getting fixed? This vehicle has been in for repairs over 2 months of the 11 months I have owned it.

Who is the dealer you had? In vancouver? Planning to purchase a 2017 Eco diesel

 

[CaseyGV]

They are not even offering the 3.0 diesel in 2017 Jeep G.C. in the U S. I wonder why.
Tom Peck

We already know why the 2017 models aren't being offered with a diesel engine yet and it has nothing to do with the numerous posts you've made stating the same thing over and over.

 

[CaseyGV]

CaseyGV, I have posted what I am dealing with. As I stated before in my post, I have bought vehicles for over 50 years, Dodges ,Fords, Chevy, and even a VW bug in the 60 s. Never had a Lemon, the odds are sooner or later you will get one, and I have mine now. The multiple post are to get the information out to the other few people that also have a vehicle, like mine, that are getting nowhere trying to get FCA to stand behind a defective vehicle they sold me. I am glad your Jeep is working fine. I have purchased 4 different Tahoes during the last 16 years for my wife, she drove them to 60,000 miles each and they never had an issue. I decided to put her in the Jeep, she likes the vehicle, we are having the problems with the engine. In 2015 they changed the head design, that is according to the Service Manager at the Jeep dealership that repaired ours. We live in a small town and Service Manager told me they replaced several 2014 3.0 eco- diesel heads. To me ,to spend $ 50,000.00 and have them replace my long block at 5400 miles is not normal. To not replace my vehicle under Arizonas Lemon Law, ( it was out of service 34 days)( Lemon Law is 30 days). is poor business. Educate me, why are they not offering the diesel in Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Since you asked me the same question in 2 different threads, I'll provide the same answer in both.

The answer you seek from me can already be found on this very forum... The EPA has not certified the 2017 MY EcoDiesel engine because of undisclosed emissions control software found in the 2014-2016 model year engines.

Oh Great! FCA under EPA investigation on 3.0 Ecos

I'm not without feeling regarding your problem - I do want to make that clear. I actually had a bad vehicle in the past (it was a 2008 Jeep Liberty as a matter of fact). Loved that vehicle, but the electrical system in it was god-awful. I'd fry the power window module nearly every time I rolled the windows down and after 6 replacement control modules, the dealership here rewired the entire vehicle. But it had other electrical issues as well and I got rid of it quickly for a Toyota (which never had one repair done do it). I took a big risk with my Grand Cherokee, but so far, I guess I've been lucky.