[Willx]

It has absolutely nothing to do with CAFE. They run 5W-30 in this globally. The Aussies have been running that weight for a long time plus the reason LOW ASH is required is DPF which is also Global not CAFE.

I am pretty sure as this is the same block running in multiple Maserati's that are not available here, that I would trust the rating. I mean hey if you want to use Mobil 1 ESP instead of the Pennzoil, that is awesome, but considering the design, I would stick with what is recommended.

 

[Willx]

I don't disagree with where you are coming from. I had a Mercedes ML320 Diesel that I traded on the Jeep and their was only one oil they would run. It is not like they would ever let you change the weight rating on the oil. You had to comply with the Mercedes Spec as well as the weight Rating... I mean it isn't like they can run 229.51 in any weight rating you want on the BlueTec

Presently the only 2 oils that are certified against MS-11106 TMK are the Mobil 1 and the Pennzoil. I know for sure the Pennzoil is not a Chrysler "re-brand" or mopar related. The related specs are all VM Motori so it really isn't a north American thing at all. However because I refuse to spend $200.00 on oil changes I do know a few places to get the Pennzoil.

Amazon (Subscribe to regular delivery for under $40.00 a case)
http://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-5500...00335411&sr=8-1&keywords=pennzoil euro l 5w30

If you live in the Chicago area and or maybe don't like Amazon (around $200 for a case of 24 works out nicely to 3 oil changes)
http://www.kellerheartt.com/

 

[Willx]

Off course they can because they do it in EU, but here in USA I think is done this way to protect them from been sued by people who neglect their cars.

Well I am not sure that I can say they don't use what they are told in the EU? I have worked in Germany, Denmark and Sweden. You run what they tell you to there, no different then here, you have engine issues, they want to see all the receipts if you didn't do it at the dealer.

 

[Willx]

Ya, I don't know if the Fiat stuff is applicable here. According the chart, this is what it says for North America

"SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Low Ash Engine Oil meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS- 11106 and approved ACEA C3"

So the ACEA C3 is an and not an or... Also I have to think the weight rating is part of the material spec? I am not saying you do not have valid points just interested in doing what is right and I am not sure the heavier weight is going to help if the engine was designed for 5w30?

 

[Willx]

As the Manual Serves multiple regions and many updated versions I have attached the current North American specifications for maintenance.