Took my GC Diesel into the dealer for the EcoDiesel Settlement flash. I notice what I believe is a new shifting pattern, (rougher), as well as the sensation it will stall at times. In addition, it has set the MIL, and advises me to seek DEF service, see dealer. Wondering if anyone else has noticed strange changes right after the diesel flash.
Problem after Diesel Emission Fix
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So far, no problems with mine after it was done - it has been a week and a half. But it seems fine.
I get mine done Monday. Will try to report back any noticeable differences.
One person here said it took an hour for their Jeep to be updated. They told me 3-4 hours.
One person here said it took an hour for their Jeep to be updated. They told me 3-4 hours.
They told me all day, but it took them an hour with mine. Check engine light just came on this morning with P20EE - taking it in today to get that looked at.
Given the number of people reporting CELs, etc... after the update, I may have them drive mine after they update it. Might save me a trip back to the dealership if the light comes on while they have it.They told me all day, but it took them an hour with mine. Check engine light just came on this morning with P20EE - taking it in today to get that looked at.
We had ours done last Thursday along with the tranny recall. We've put about 100 miles on her. No issues. Mpg and shifting seem the same.
Dealer says the DEF injector needed to be replaced (that's what triggered the check engine light). They then managed to break the studs holding the particulate filter in, so they have to replace that also. It would have been done today if that had not happened.
I had ours done last week and both drivers have noticed less responsiveness when starting from a stop and a hesitation, when cold, that is more noticeable than the hesitation when warmed up. Nothing other than that so far. I just changed the fuel filters on the week prior and checked the air filter (aFe) to see if it needed to be cleaned and recharged, it didn't.
Dealer said it would take two hours, it took over six but I also had the wheels aligned and the oil changed.
Dealer said it would take two hours, it took over six but I also had the wheels aligned and the oil changed.
Since the software flash, shifting has been smooth but both drivers have noticed the hesitation from stop, with almost a stumble, when cold. I have been curious what other owners have experienced.Took my GC Diesel into the dealer for the EcoDiesel Settlement flash. I notice what I believe is a new shifting pattern, (rougher), as well as the sensation it will stall at times. In addition, it has set the MIL, and advises me to seek DEF service, see dealer. Wondering if anyone else has noticed strange changes right after the diesel flash.
Got mine done today. Did seem to be more lag from a stop than normal and mid throttle acceleration seemed a little flat. This was odd because the eco button was off and I usually have it on.
Maybe the transmission needs time to learn? I will give it a bit longer before I complain.
Maybe the transmission needs time to learn? I will give it a bit longer before I complain.
I took my 2014 Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel in for flash Sunday, after about 3 hours they came and got me to tell me my car would not start and they needed to put me in a rental. They called today and told me my pcm was fried and they were replacing it under warranty and should get here tomorrow.
Turns out they did the following:Dealer says the DEF injector needed to be replaced (that's what triggered the check engine light). They then managed to break the studs holding the particulate filter in, so they have to replace that also. It would have been done today if that had not happened.
Replaced the SCR (second time I’ve had that done)
Replaced the particulate matter sensor because it was seized into the SCR.
Replaced the DPF filter because it was cross threaded into the SCR.
I imagine this would have been pricey if I had had to pay for any of it...
Since the flash on 5/25/2019 I have experienced similar behaviors as stated in the thread: rough idle, significant lag/hesitation and stumble from stop when cold. Symptoms continue when warm but not as significant. Mid-throttle response at 30-40 mph has significant lag at times when attempting to accelerate.
Update: 6/7/2019
Since the flash I have been the primary driver. I have been testing the different driving modes, ECO puts the vehicle in a very sluggish state with slow to respond throttle response and transmission downshifts. Non-ECO feels like what ECO was previously before the flash. Sport Mode is slightly more peppy than non-ECO. Previously, I did not perceive that much of a difference between the 3 modes except for transmission responsiveness and shift point changes. MPG changed in accordance to the driving mode.
I texted the dealership, they talked to the diesel tech, who said that if the check engine light is not on after the flash, then the flash was successful.
Update: 6/7/2019
Since the flash I have been the primary driver. I have been testing the different driving modes, ECO puts the vehicle in a very sluggish state with slow to respond throttle response and transmission downshifts. Non-ECO feels like what ECO was previously before the flash. Sport Mode is slightly more peppy than non-ECO. Previously, I did not perceive that much of a difference between the 3 modes except for transmission responsiveness and shift point changes. MPG changed in accordance to the driving mode.
I texted the dealership, they talked to the diesel tech, who said that if the check engine light is not on after the flash, then the flash was successful.
I had my update done yesterday and unfortunately it did make a difference. The engine feels like the turbo is operating at about 70% of what it was. I have an incline from when I leave my driveway and this morning, it lugged up the hill at about 6 mph with the pedal to the floor....couldn't get it to downshift. It has never done that before. The turbo lag was acceptable before, but I don't get the acceleration boost like before. The power slowly comes on now. However, it did accelerate fairly close to what it did prior ONE time today. I'm going to give it some time to 're learn' and see if it comes together. As a precaution, I filed a complaint with Chrysler at the number on the notice that was sent to us. Someone mentioned that the re-flash may not have uploaded/installed correctly... we'll see what Chrysler proposes.. Also feel a slight vibration from the engine at times...just not as smooth as it was. A buddy of mine that has a 2016 Summit eco confirmed the same after I let him drive mine today. It is definitely a different vehicle now.
Check engine light came back on today - same code P20EE. Back to the dealership it goes...Turns out they did the following:
Replaced the SCR (second time I’ve had that done)
Replaced the particulate matter sensor because it was seized into the SCR.
Replaced the DPF filter because it was cross threaded into the SCR.
I imagine this would have been pricey if I had had to pay for any of it...
Took my GC Diesel into the dealer for the EcoDiesel Settlement flash. I notice what I believe is a new shifting pattern, (rougher), as well as the sensation it will stall at times. In addition, it has set the MIL, and advises me to seek DEF service, see dealer. Wondering if anyone else has noticed strange changes right after the diesel flash.
Fuel mileage has decreased, just finished a trip to Florida from Atlanta, mileage for it was 26 versus the same trip when new it was 28 mpg. Also, I'm now noticing an occasional shake at idle.Took my GC Diesel into the dealer for the EcoDiesel Settlement flash. I notice what I believe is a new shifting pattern, (rougher), as well as the sensation it will stall at times. In addition, it has set the MIL, and advises me to seek DEF service, see dealer. Wondering if anyone else has noticed strange changes right after the diesel flash.
Just heard back from the dealership - they opened a STAR case with Jeep corporate because they don’t know what’s wrong with it. I’m hoping this ends up having them buy the vehicle back.Check engine light came back on today - same code P20EE. Back to the dealership it goes...
We also have a Fiat Chrysler Automotive (FCA) STAR case open on our 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Eco-Diesel. Approximately 200 miles after our dealership completed the V08 emissions recall update (flash), the check engine light illuminated, we received a DEF Service Warning and a second independent warning threating that the vehicle would not restart if we turned it off. Immediately took our Jeep to the dealership, without turning it off.
That was May 25, 2019. We drove it to the dealership vice having it towed based on advice/assurance from a duty service manager. When we arrived the service manager said that he had other similar cases and that the dealership was already working with "Chrysler Engineers" on a solution. However, he had no idea of how long it would take to fix. Several days later the dealership back-peddled saying our DEF light warning was caused by a problem with the diesel pump. A day after that the dealership said it was a PCM problem, that they would order and it would be in the next day. The PCM came in but it was missing a secondary part!
Seemed like a lot of hoodwinking going on from the dealership so at that point we contacted Jeep/FCA via online customer support and they assigned a customer representative. The FCA rep opened a STAR case and worked with the dealership to get us a rental car. The rental car is good through June 17, 2019. The rep also told us to send her our bill for the days that we had paid out of pocket for a rental car. She said FCA would probably cover up to $35 per day.
Our dealership now acknowledges that the problem with our Jeep is related to the V08 emissions flash and that they are working with FCA on a solution.
Who is monitoring compliance as part of the Eco-Diesel lawsuit settlement? They should be made aware of these issues. We did report our situation to the Hagens Berman Law Firm Tip Line @ Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP | Class Action Attorneys | Hagens Berman | National Class Action Litigation Firm based in Seattle, WA but to date have not received a response.
That was May 25, 2019. We drove it to the dealership vice having it towed based on advice/assurance from a duty service manager. When we arrived the service manager said that he had other similar cases and that the dealership was already working with "Chrysler Engineers" on a solution. However, he had no idea of how long it would take to fix. Several days later the dealership back-peddled saying our DEF light warning was caused by a problem with the diesel pump. A day after that the dealership said it was a PCM problem, that they would order and it would be in the next day. The PCM came in but it was missing a secondary part!
Seemed like a lot of hoodwinking going on from the dealership so at that point we contacted Jeep/FCA via online customer support and they assigned a customer representative. The FCA rep opened a STAR case and worked with the dealership to get us a rental car. The rental car is good through June 17, 2019. The rep also told us to send her our bill for the days that we had paid out of pocket for a rental car. She said FCA would probably cover up to $35 per day.
Our dealership now acknowledges that the problem with our Jeep is related to the V08 emissions flash and that they are working with FCA on a solution.
Who is monitoring compliance as part of the Eco-Diesel lawsuit settlement? They should be made aware of these issues. We did report our situation to the Hagens Berman Law Firm Tip Line @ Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP | Class Action Attorneys | Hagens Berman | National Class Action Litigation Firm based in Seattle, WA but to date have not received a response.
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I have a 2014 JGC diesel and a 2016 ram 1500 diesel. Got the flash done almost two weeks ago now. Both cars are sluggish and almost unresponsive at low rpm as compared to before.
If anyone starts a complaint against FCA for the repair, and gets somewhere with them, keep us posted...strength in numbers. I called Chrysler the day after to complain and they 'opened a case number" and said someone would be in touch...that was on June 5th, no response yet. I also called the toll free "833" number on the ecodiesel settlement info this morning and all they said is that they would 'note my file'. Obviously that was the end of that avenue.
My frustration lies with FCA stating that the fix will not affect drivability, performance, engine noise and vibration. I'm experiencing most of the things that they said it would not affect. The vehicle I have now is not the same vehicle I purchased for sure.
My frustration lies with FCA stating that the fix will not affect drivability, performance, engine noise and vibration. I'm experiencing most of the things that they said it would not affect. The vehicle I have now is not the same vehicle I purchased for sure.
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