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I am not going to name the dealer, but this morning I went to test drive a 2014 Ecodiesel Jeep.
She started right up, 14 miles on the ODO. I then noticed a Check Engine light and the Electronic Throttle Fail light, along with a Diesel Particulate Filter at 100%.

We tried to drive it, but it was as slow as a turtle and would not shift up. In other words "Limp Mode"

Gosh I like this beast and first look, but I wonder why a new car, on a dealer lot would have these lights and be in this condition.
The Service Manager stated to the sales person that they just needed to reset it, and it's only been idled around the dealership. That "LOADS" up the particulate filter he said. where is the BS Flag around here?

Should I go back and do a proper test drive?
 

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Ya, with only 14 miles, that is a total line of crap from the dealer. Unless they literally let it idle for hours and hours at a time, but even then I think it would take a while. I have limited experience with diesels, but sounds like a line of crap. They chose poorly on letting you drive that one.

Seems like there are definitely diesel units out there with some serious issues, I've been checking in at jeepforum.com and they are chiming in there too. All I can say about our experience with now 2600 miles is that it's been flawless and we love it. I'd give it another shot, but maybe drive a different vehicle. If you drive the one you first drove, try and find out what they did to fix it. Even if fixed, not sure I'd recommend going with that particular vehicle....
 

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Not sure what they did with the Jeep.

Went back yesterday and tried the same one. Seemed MUCH better, no issues what so ever. The Jeep drove out very smartly and had plenty of pep for me. A much better ride than my 2003 and the two that I am driving now. observed MPG at the end of the test drive was at 26.5. In the same drive I would be hard pressed to get over 20 with my wife's Dodge Journey Gas V6.

No highway drive, max speed of about 55, and rural/in town driving. That seems very very good to me. These engines and mechanicals do need to be broke in a bit, so I'll bet the MPG will get better with time.

Seats....Loved them. Supportive and large enough for my frame. no problems with leg room or the dang console rubbing me the wrong way like some vehicles.

Vision out of the vehicle. Not as nice as I thought it was going to be. Many blind spots, but that is expected.

Drive experience....Very good! Like the handling and ride very much.

The real question....Will I buy. Not sure yet. As the last poster stated, I am a little leary of this one, but it did redeem itself yesterday. Looks like it would make a great travel vehicle for my wife and I. The Jeep has a certain presence about it. Very classy and looks very upscale as it should for the price. The price does stop me a bit. As I've said before, I really don't need a Limited, Overland, or Summit edition. I would be happy with a Laredo package to be sure.
 

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ang1sgt: I would be happy with a Laredo package to be sure.[/QUOTE]

Is the ecodiesel avail in the Laredo? I thought it was just the Ltd, Overland and Summit.
 

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The EcoDiesel is currently not available on the Laredo.
That is my only beef with Jeep right now. I was perfectly satisfied with my 2003 Grand Laredo. I use mine to go camping and I do cut wood for the fireplace and bonfires. I get pretty dirty, and I just can't see jumping into a full lux Jeep only to screw up the leather.
 

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The wrangler comes out with a diesel for 2015. It's already being made in Detroit and exported overseas. I have no intention of playing in the dirt with mine. But I am going to mount a winch and light bar on the front of my 4x2 Limited in case something needs to be dragged out of the mud.
 

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That is my only beef with Jeep right now. I was perfectly satisfied with my 2003 Grand Laredo. I use mine to go camping and I do cut wood for the fireplace and bonfires. I get pretty dirty, and I just can't see jumping into a full lux Jeep only to screw up the leather.

Yeah, that's the marketing strategy. Make something that may be popular only available with additional options or only in the upper trim levels. Maximizes profits.

I'd imagine in a couple of years or so they may make it available on the Laredo but who really knows.
 
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