[dascrow]

I'm very anxious to see what the towing limits will be from the factory. Anyone think we'll see a 8000 pound towing limit?

 

[VSAdmin]

I'm very anxious to see what the towing limits will be from the factory. Anyone think we'll see a 8000 pound towing limit?

I'm guessing 6500 lbs.

 

[tcoilburner]

7400lb is the tow rating for the diesel, same has the hemi

 

[dascrow]

That's incredible! Any idea what the hitch weight will be limited to? 740 pounds?

7400lb is the tow rating for the diesel, same has the hemi

 

[MDBones]

LOL... the tail wagging the dog.

 

[tcoilburner]

I not sure what the hitch's weight distributed load will be, but it is usually 10 to 15% of the trailer weight.
MDBones I do not want to start this here, but if you stay within the manufacturers rating and set up the trailer, hitch properly and drive intelligently you will be fine.

 

[MDBones]

LOL... I'd prefer to drive intelligently and tow with a vehicle better suited for that purpose.

 

[tcoilburner]

You never get that it is designed to do this. The problem is usually the short circuit behind the steering wheel. Spent more money on a less fuel efficient truck?

 

[MDBones]

If I towed I'd be using a proper vehicle to do it. A vehicle that's designed for towing shouldn't need any modifications to make it work. Unless of course you're trying to tow something that's really too large for the vehicle and trying to prevent the tail from wagging the dog.

I always order my Grand Cherokees with the class 4 trailer package. It's a cost effective way to get a HD alternator and cooling. And the receiver hitch itself adds a little more stiffness and protection if some idiot ever rear ends me.

 

[tcoilburner]

Thanks for showing everyone your lack of knowledge on towing. Most trucks are not completely ready to tow from the factory. All need the correct receiver for the hitch, still most have to have a fifth-wheel hitch or goose-neck hitch installed after it is delivered. Still not as many as before, have to have a trailer brake controller installed. So are the trucks you so love not set up to tow, the same has the Grand or other vehicles that do come from the factory with a trailer hitch package?

Anyone with some knowledge about towing should know that you have to purchase the correct equipment when you tow, and it has to be properly set-up. I have seen people at campgrounds with trailers and trucks (that you say are the safe way to tow) with trailer so tongue heavy that the truck is sagging in the back, and the trailer is pointed down hill to the truck. Which has the trucks front end pointed to the sky. Sorry, I will drive my Jeep set-up correctly and be a whole lot safer the that truck.

 

[MDBones]

Thanks for showing everyone your lack of knowledge on towing. Most trucks are not completely ready to tow from the factory. All need the correct receiver for the hitch, still most have to have a fifth-wheel hitch or goose-neck hitch installed after it is delivered. Still not as many as before, have to have a trailer brake controller installed. So are the trucks you so love not set up to tow, the same has the Grand or other vehicles that do come from the factory with a trailer hitch package?

Anyone with some knowledge about towing should know that you have to purchase the correct equipment when you tow, and it has to be properly set-up. I have seen people at campgrounds with trailers and trucks (that you say are the safe way to tow) with trailer so tongue heavy that the truck is sagging in the back, and the trailer is pointed down hill to the truck. Which has the trucks front end pointed to the sky. Sorry, I will drive my Jeep set-up correctly and be a whole lot safer the that truck.

You're splitting hairs now. Buying the proper vehicle to suit your towing needs is part of purchasing the correct equipment to tow with.

Yes, I see a lot of of people around here who buy tail-sagging light duty half ton trucks and think they can pull oversized loads with them. I'll give them some credit for at least attempting to do it with a physically larger vehicle. Other than that, I don't see much difference between them and someone who thinks they're smart enough to do the same thing with an even smaller vehicle. Just because you can doesn't mean that you should.

I can picture the sight of you rolling down the highway pulling a 4900 pound, 26 foot travel trailer behind your Liberty and how people must laugh and shake their heads at you for doing it. Your state must have pretty lax laws if you're getting away with that. Around here you'd be pulled over and cited for it.

 

[tcoilburner]

What IS unsafe is going over the manufactures limits. I am NOT over the limit, just closet it. You should know lawyers and they will keep the rating very safe for the companies protection. I am safer pulling something correctly, than someone not set up correctly. If you have any problem with what I am telling you, come on over to the Lost kjs forum and talk with so many of the other great Diesel Liberty owners. Do a search on towing over there. They are a great bunch that all love and use their diesel libertys to do stuff.

 

[sanuras]

Lighten up tcoilburner, this is a forum to exchange ideas and thoughts not to bash your colleagues. Your vast knowledge of tow vehicle should be shared with us al in a non threatening manner so that we all can learn from you.

 

[sanuras]

Lighten up tcoilburner. I believe, this is a friendly forum to exchange ideas and thoughts regarding the Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel, not an excercise in bashing your colleauges about something we think we know more about that the others contributors do. Please do share your vast knowledge of towing with us all, but keep your thoughts, just as I am doing, of some people's lack of knowledge yourself.

 

[tcoilburner]

I am sorry, about the way it reads.

I started posting just my ideas and facts. I would just like to make sure that people see the whole picture and then make up thier own minds. No one has to do or think what I think, but I do not like when someone posts misleading things.

 

[Mpgtow]

Hi,
Anybody towing with the ecodiesel 4x4 and a distribution hitch?
It states in the manual any trailer with gvw over 3500lb must (mandatory) euse a weight distribution hitch. This would typically be about 350-400 tongue weight. My trailer is about this weight and wondering why it's necessary? My Last vehicle with a lower capacity of 6,000lb tow did not require this. The diesel has 7200 lbs (4x4) capacity.
Many distribution hitches start with a minimum tongue weight of 600lbs.

Thoughts? Am I reading this incorrectly?
Thanks, Rob
Grand Cherokee Limited ecodiesel 4x4

 

[Bogeyman2B]

View attachment 49
Maybe not the best overall angle of our setup...4x4 Diesel
28' Trailer, 31' total length...5200 dry weight...most likely close to 6,000 lbs.
I have weight distribution and anti-sway bars.

Still have to install bike rack on back.
We tow with empty tanks as well.
I dropped the ball height 2" today to allow for new Jeep driving height.
Sorry, forgot to take pics of the hitch setup...will do when I venture out again...soon.

 

[bulhas]

how does it tow bogey??

I am considering renting an 18ft car trailer and loading my Landcruiser 80 series and towing for around 1350 miles to the fab shop in grand junction, CO

id be ditching as much weight as possible from the unit to help, removing all non essential for the Lexus, like passenger seats and even the carpet in the back to help, but I figure ill be near the 6500 to 6600 lb mark with trailer weight

I haven't seen much for MPG loss, on current trips we average 600-700 miles per tank, id like to be around 450 still towing, so curious if you've towed a full tank yet

 

[Bogeyman2B]

Here is my WD & sway bar setup for our JGC...Rides level and no sag.
You deffinately know there's a 28' trailer back there.
We have not burned a full tank yet...2 trips planned to the west coast of FL and the keys in May.

 

[AOR]

Thanks for the pics have you towed this at highway speeds yet?