[cshiffy105]

Hello All

First time poster here.

I have a 2015 Overland Ecodiesel that had the AEM completed last month. I went into the dealer for an oil change and this was done without me asking for it and it has absolutely ruined my vehicle. I have seen many threads on this so I won't rant about it but would like to see if there are any options at this point for me to keep the Jeep.

I bought the car as a CPO 2 years ago and have enjoyed it thoroughly up until this point. I drive about 90% highway and was averaging 28 mpg in the spring and summer and around 26 mpg in the late fall and winter. After the AEM my MPG has dropped to around 23-24 average and the turbo lag is unacceptable in my opinion. I also have had it taken back to the dealer once already as I kept getting the "Exhaust filter nearing full drive at highway speeds to remedy" , I drive 90 % highway so I am not sure why I keep getting this...

At this point I have reached out to Green Diesel Engineering and was told that they are no longer allowed to sell the GDE Hot tune due to EPA regulations. I am desperate to find some sort of fix that is not going to break the bank as I really do like the vehicle overall.

Any thoughts?

 

[Jeep2016]

My advice to you , get rid of the car as soon as you can. I have been living a night mare after this recall was done to the vehicle.
In addition to engine hesitation and loss of MPG, constant regens and DPF service , see dealer messages are next. I had to replace the PCM as the dealer was not able to clear the error message to get the car running again. FYI , it is not covered by the recall extended warranty. Constant trips to the dealership right after this software update. I’m in limbo too, not sure what to do.


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[Mswhitney82]

I am also experiencing similar issue. I purchased my 2015 JGC Diesel new and have put 62,000 miles on it. Been an amazing vehicle since day 1 with NO issues. Took it in for the AEM with the promise of NO change to driving experience... total BS! It has been a nightmare. Started noticing the “Regen in process continue driving” message was happening frequently. Shoot I have had that thing for years and barely ever saw that message and now it comes on ALL the time. Also noticed that every time the message comes up the next day my check engine light is on. It always went off before I could get it to the dealership so I was like um... ok cool. Initially did not notice any changes to vehicle. Now On Saturday the dang thing died pulling out of the driveway and the “service engine throttle control” message popped up so I took it in today. The whole way in there were serious lag issues, transmission is acting like Dr Jekyl and is identical in sport mode and eco mode. After 6 hours in the shop they called and stated “the computer says the fuel filters need changed and it looks like you haven’t done that in a while so the tech isn’t going to do anything until you authorize that service”. I stated... fuel filters were changed 10k miles ago by myself because I’m not paying you guys over $200 to do something that simple. Here it is after 12 hours in the shop when I called to check on it they said they are waiting on a different tech who comes in tomorrow... WTF! Had my car all day and all they say is it needs fuel filters which it doesn’t! If anyone knows anything PLEASE SHARE! I feel so defeated and it’s like I been punched in the throat... I have only owned the same car for 1 to 2 years over the last 10 years because every car I own I hate until my JGC... and now our relationship has been destroyed like some cheating hooker... what do we do now??

 

[OldPS]

The Ecodiesel settlement has not lived up to what was committed to. IMO they have not delivered on FCA's promises. We need to launch a new class action lawsuit to remedy this. My GC is not the vehicle that I bought. The fact that EPA can shut down GDE for a performance upgrade is our government working against us. My GC is having the "regen in progress" weekly and also after hours cruising on the highway when by all things written by FCA says that it shouldn't.

 

[Mswhitney82]

So far after my engine light issue which code reflected dirty fuel filters (even though they only had 12000 miles on that set) so I ended up paying jeep 285 bucks to replace my fuel filters because they were complaining that they haven’t been changed since 30k miles ago... I asked them what that had to do with the constant weekly “regen in progress” message and they had no answer. So far I’m up and running but if that light comes back on they are gonna see my jeep on the showroom floor after I drive it through the glass walls

 

[sknuth]

Has anyone done the HD diesel supply tune? Looks very similar to GDE’s but Canadian. I refuse to take my Jeep to the dealer because of the issues everyone has been having with the update.

 

[Dmend20]

Hey guys this has been a nightmare for me as well. Brought Jeep in June 2019 for recall fix and 3 days later I get “Service Electronic Throttle control” and extreme lag in acceleration. Got the car back from Jeep in August they said it was fixed and 2 days later the same error comes up. It is now January 2020 and my 2014 Overland Diesel has been in and out of the shop 5 times now and I still don’t have my vehicle. They also said it was due to a turbo oil line leak and fuel filters, paid them $1600 to fix(in September 2019) but still same issue. Luckily Jeep has been paying for a rental (which is NOT a Jeep) but I LOVE my Jeep and have had zero issues since the AEM recall. And the car is paid off to make things worse. I have been working with FCA customer care level II and will work on getting my money back if/when the Jeep is actually fixed. At this point I have demanded a new vehicle as well so we shall see what happens!

 

[ATLdiesel]

Has anyone used the PPEI custom tune and have any feeback? They are the only ones doing tunes (and GDE shutting down) for ecodiesels now since the new EPA rules and you have to take the ECM out of the vehicle and send it to them to do a bench tune, they send it back and you have to reinstall it? They tune is $900 and I'd probably have to rent a car for a week while the tune is being done onsite in Louisiana. There is little to no feedback available on the internet so hoping someone is familiar with it.
The short version of my story to date:
I've had really bad problems with regens since the AEM and had to take it to the dealer several times after getting the DPF100% full message. All the while, I've been lobbying my dealer (Rick Hendrick in Atlanta, GA) to replace the DPF because I knew it was clogged and compromising the regen process in general. The details of what it took to get them to replace it under warranty:

• The dealer (who I think it good and competent, many aren't) wouldn't just replace the DPF on my word despite my horrible history with regens and dealer initiated manual regens
• I had been raising hell with FCA and had multiple call-ins/claims about regens
• It got to the point where I purposely let it get 100% full so that I had a check engine light on they "had an excuse to take off the DPF and inspect it
• They inspected the DPF and it was totally clogged to the point that they couldn't even do manual regens on it anymore (the DPF soot hose we 97% clogged too)
• Got it all covered 100% under the extended warranty on 2/12/20

My concern moving forward is that the same thing is bound to happen again if I don't get it tuned. When speaking with PPEI a couple weeks before, they said the tune would be futile if I had a compromised DPF filter from the way the AEM had it tuned currently so they suggested demanding that FCA replace the DPF. Mission accomplished after much pain and frustration so now I'm just trying to do my homework while searching for a tuning option.

My other concern is that this issue has gotten so bad and widespread that maybe FCA will do something about it; offer an updated tune, offer a buyback, etc. I have little to no faith in them but if I go the tuning route, I will void my extended warranty. I have a bad feeling that other stuff my be compromised due the the joke that is the AEM tune so trying not to spend a grand on a tune (which I think is the right option) but the have other things start falling apart that should be covered under the extended warranty which is now void because of the tune.

Tough spot but leaning towards a tune and looking for insight!

 

[jutdean]

I just completed the HD Diesel Supply tune and delete about one week ago. The ECU swap is very easy if that's all you want to do. The EGR delete is difficult (HD doesn't have directions for the JGC only the Ram truck and they are not identical). The exhaust delete is tough, but doable with two people.

My Overland's performance is significantly improved compared to stock. No lag, much better fuel economy (4-6mpg improvement), much more power, acceleration, etc.

I'm in FL and we don't have emission checks here so no risk on my part. If I live in a state that did, I'd still get the tune that includes shutting the EGR valve electronically and shuts down the DEF requirement too, but leaves all the parts intact. The performance won't be has noticeable without the full exhaust delete, but I'm sure it would still be an improvement.

With all of that said, my main concern was longevity in the life of the engine and getting rid of the EGR was important to me. I didn't pay such a premium for the diesel to have all of these problems. Removing all the EPA junk, I'm sure, will add a lot of life to my engine and many less trips to the dealer. I feel like I have a completely reliable vehicle now.

As a side note, if you are looking for a better drive experience and don't want to mess with all the EPA stuff, I'd suggest the Banks Bullet. That's what I had on my engine and it basically matches the HD tune and is a pretty easy install that would take a couple of hours.

 

[ATLdiesel]

Thanks for the insight jutdean. I went ahead and bought a tune from MRTuning- the stage one tune. I'll report out on it a couple weeks after I get it installed. Chris Munro was very informative and responsive.

The good news is that only 150 miles after getting my new DPF installed, I got a regen message to continue driving and then on my way to drop of my kids at the house to "go find a highway" "cause I've got nothing but time in my life to go drive around", I got a DPF nearing full go drive at highway speeds message. This is maddening and a great example of of how the AEM "fix" is basically ruining my car. I was tempted to just let the thing go into limp mode again and drive it right back to the dealer but I have no faith in FCA to fix the issue. I'm at a loss with this whole situation and FCA is acting in a damn near criminal manner here.

Any insight into why I'm regening so frequently or what parts may fix it, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[bk brown]

Has anyone used the PPEI custom tune and have any feeback? They are the only ones doing tunes (and GDE shutting down) for ecodiesels now since the new EPA rules and you have to take the ECM out of the vehicle and send it to them to do a bench tune, they send it back and you have to reinstall it? They tune is $900 and I'd probably have to rent a car for a week while the tune is being done onsite in Louisiana. There is little to no feedback available on the internet so hoping someone is familiar with it. The short version of my story to date: I've had really bad problems with regens since the AEM and had to take it to the dealer several times after getting the DPF100% full message. All the while, I've been lobbying my dealer (Rick Hendrick in Atlanta, GA) to replace the DPF because I knew it was clogged and compromising the regen process in general. The details of what it took to get them to replace it under warranty:

• The dealer (who I think it good and competent, many aren't) wouldn't just replace the DPF on my word despite my horrible history with regens and dealer initiated manual regens
• I had been raising hell with FCA and had multiple call-ins/claims about regens
• It got to the point where I purposely let it get 100% full so that I had a check engine light on they "had an excuse to take off the DPF and inspect it
• They inspected the DPF and it was totally clogged to the point that they couldn't even do manual regens on it anymore (the DPF soot hose we 97% clogged too)
• Got it all covered 100% under the extended warranty on 2/12/20

My concern moving forward is that the same thing is bound to happen again if I don't get it tuned. When speaking with PPEI a couple weeks before, they said the tune would be futile if I had a compromised DPF filter from the way the AEM had it tuned currently so they suggested demanding that FCA replace the DPF. Mission accomplished after much pain and frustration so now I'm just trying to do my homework while searching for a tuning option. My other concern is that this issue has gotten so bad and widespread that maybe FCA will do something about it; offer an updated tune, offer a buyback, etc. I have little to no faith in them but if I go the tuning route, I will void my extended warranty. I have a bad feeling that other stuff my be compromised due the the joke that is the AEM tune so trying not to spend a grand on a tune (which I think is the right option) but the have other things start falling apart that should be covered under the extended warranty which is now void because of the tune. Tough spot but leaning towards a tune and looking for insight!

What do you end up doing? Trying to decide if I want to purchase a 2014 JGC Eco. I have a 7 day grace period to decide and I’ve already had a code flash about incorrect DEF. If we do purchase this vehicle, it sounds like we would also need to drop money into doing some sort of DEF delete. Thoughts?

 

[Bounty Hunter]

What do you end up doing? Trying to decide if I want to purchase a 2014 JGC Eco. I have a 7 day grace period to decide and I’ve already had a code flash about incorrect DEF. If we do purchase this vehicle, it sounds like we would also need to drop money into doing some sort of DEF delete. Thoughts?

Either do stage 1 with DEF delete or go all-out and do stage 2 and lose all emissions. Either way, use Ecodiesel Owner's Canada to get your MRtuning tune and T&S exhaust.

 

[AKDieselGC]

Either do stage 1 with DEF delete or go all-out and do stage 2 and lose all emissions. Either way, use Ecodiesel Owner's Canada to get your MRtuning tune and T&S exhaust.

Is that a business or website im looking to do mine in the near future.

 

[Bounty Hunter]

Is that a business or website im looking to do mine in the near future.

https://ecodiesel-owners-canada-performance-parts.square.site/s/shop